Amilmand WIP

amilmand · 2017-12-18T00:44:10+00:00

I will report updates made to SlrrExhaustive (which will only concern bugs reported or ones I find) here. Also if or when I find something more to add to the Native function thingmod Or if I find something interesting to share like the MapRPKDecode or the RPKMergeTool I will also try and relay bugreports here. Concerning SlrrExhaustive I will keep an update link this one: SlrrExhaustivePatch That will contain all the patches made from the start merged together but I will update the main file und

RinKK

# amilmand :
Well RinKK how does it crash do you have something in the error.log?
What are you doing when it crashes?
Do you have the latest patch? (LINK)
Is the crash reproducible? If so what are the steps that result in a consistent crash?
If the crash is not directly reproducible is there at least some kind of consistency? (like always in the catalogue or always when starting a race, something like this)
Did you mod it further?
Are you talking about SlrrExhaustive or the reshade modification? (I assumed SlrrExhaustive)

Doesn't show anything.
Completly random.
Yes
Not really, apart from 1 crash that always happens when I try to buy full cars.
Yeah it's pretty consistent
No
Exhaustive.

There you go!

amilmand

Which full car?
I'm trying to pry out info so I can reproduce the crash and fix it (or at least identify it as one of the known ones)
If you have the patch and using reshade you may have additional info in the d3d9.log (reshade dumps the last 100 script calls made (with some luck)) can you tell me the last 10 if they are there after a crash?
To be sure that the next crash will produce the log in d3d9.log please use the d3d9.dll from the current update I just uploaded a new one (the only difference is the d3d9.dll (same link as before))
How long do you play on avarege before crashing (you may run out of memory because of the extensive amount of scripts in the current version I'm working on a large patch that will mitigate that (the game only uses 4Gb so it doesnt really matter how much ram you actually have))
But it may be the newly discovered rpk slot reservation of unknown rpk references in effect :/ if it is so (we will see in the d3d9.log that the last call will be an init on a ResourceRef or a set() on a ResourceRef) that will also be fixed in the next update (though this next update will be difficult I dont really know how to push it I think I will just reupload the whole thing again because some files need to be removed, there were a lot of changes and it will brake compatibility with previous savefiles :/ and this could be discouraging (the car-save files will be incompatible but they can be made compatible only the mufflers and the wheels need to be removed and the car resaved but this is far too complicated to add as a general patch-note))
But before this patch there is still a potential crash on the followSpline() and one on system.currentTime() I didnt get to yet.

RinKK

# amilmand :
Which full car?
I'm trying to pry out info so I can reproduce the crash and fix it (or at least identify it as one of the known ones)
If you have the patch and using reshade you may have additional info in the d3d9.log (reshade dumps the last 100 script calls made (with some luck)) can you tell me the last 10 if they are there after a crash?
To be sure that the next crash will produce the log in d3d9.log please use the d3d9.dll from the current update I just uploaded a new one (the only difference is the d3d9.dll (same link as before))
How long do you play on avarege before crashing (you may run out of memory because of the extensive amount of scripts in the current version I'm working on a large patch that will mitigate that (the game only uses 4Gb so it doesnt really matter how much ram you actually have))
But it may be the newly discovered rpk slot reservation of unknown rpk references in effect :/ if it is so (we will see in the d3d9.log that the last call will be an init on a ResourceRef or a set() on a ResourceRef) that will also be fixed in the next update (though this next update will be difficult I dont really know how to push it I think I will just reupload the whole thing again because some files need to be removed, there were a lot of changes and it will brake compatibility with previous savefiles :/ and this could be discouraging (the car-save files will be incompatible but they can be made compatible only the mufflers and the wheels need to be removed and the car resaved but this is far too complicated to add as a general patch-note))
But before this patch there is still a potential crash on the followSpline() and one on system.currentTime() I didnt get to yet.

Like 2 minutes and any car spawned fully that I tried in the catalog will crash my game. One I can remember for sure is the Escort. The saves are new and also the used car dealership crashes all the time aswell.

amilmand

Hmm that really should not happen :/
I would be interested to know why it does.
If you have time can you try the new d3d9.dll and give me some (10 last lines) of the d3d9.log if you crash every two minutes it should not be that much of a hassle

Bigg_Boss93

Hey, do you think it'd be possible to make an "hammer" tool?

I mean, i think it is possible but probably it will require some fairly complex scripting.

Basically something that allows choosing the size/shape/weight of an object and energy used to dent a car with a few sliders/buttons, and would allow, by clicking on any part of the car, to dent it. Kinda like the painter tool, but instead of applying a decal, bumping the car.

RinKK

# amilmand :
Hmm that really should not happen :/
I would be interested to know why it does.
If you have time can you try the new d3d9.dll and give me some (10 last lines) of the d3d9.log if you crash every two minutes it should not be that much of a hassle

https://pastebin.com/93zK3EBr

skip

Hey amilmand, I was wondering if there is any way we can use the v3 and v4 .scx export in newer 3DS Maxes? 3DS Max 5 is ancient and it would really help if I could use newer versions instead of 5.

amilmand

We tried to fix the crashing issue RinKK is experiencing it is one of the crashes I'm trying to track down with not much luck for now..
anyhow reshade seems to be the culprit in RinKK's case, he has an sli setup that might have something to do with it however we tried setting the game to use only one of the gpus and it still refused to operate properly... so this may be unrelated.
But if someone else is also experiencing frequent crashes removing (and with that ofcourse loosing) reshade (the d3d9.dll) could help.

skip wrote
v3 and v4 .scx export

There is no implementation as of this moment but this is a relatively frequently requested thing so who knows (an exporter with no skinmodifier or animation support and with only v4 output would be feasible)
For the time being though I would suggest using the .3ds file type as an interface between newer versions and 3dsmax5 :/

Bigg Boss93 wrote
"hammer" tool

basic scripting would probably be insufficient for this because there is only a getVelocity on PhysRefs and no setVelocity
creating a mod like this would be a mighty great endeavour.
(I have been trying to mess with the physics engine part of slrr for quite some time now and it seems very jumbled (maybe the most jumbled yet...)
but if I manage to find out more there is a chance to properly add the setVelocity function after that it wouldnt be that hard)

skip

Thing is I already am but I'm past the 256 material limit of the .3ds file type. 3DS Max 5 has practically no support for other file types that would work sadly.

amilmand

skip wrote
256 materials

Holy shit 😃
I see, you can use multiple .3ds files though and import them in the same scene wouldn't that work? (but I do understand it is getting pretty tedious)

skip

I'll try splitting it into multiple files and see if it works, thanks. It's gonna take a while though....
......784 entities in total.

help

RedCarDriver

Not to be rude, but why exactly do you need more than 256 materials? :/

skip

# RedCarDriver :
Not to be rude, but why exactly do you need more than 256 materials? :/

I'm making a map and I put in too much details. I'm optimising it as we speak and it's under the limit by quite a bit but now I just have to get it to export correctly from 3DSMax 5... which is quite painful.
(Edit)
What I mean by painful:

RedCarDriver

Oh, right. I figured it was a track. Tracks are a pain - I tried converting the Tokyo Dockyards from NFS Pro Street at one point, and abandoned it because it was just too complicated.

Bigg_Boss93

Maps have to be exported with V3, and we do have a v3 plugin for newer maxes so...

I use a combo of max 2009(when i have to make shadowmapped tracks) and max 5 to make maps, the first for v3 meshes and the second for v4, render, meshes(windows, boards etc).

Amil, you wouldnt really need a setvelocity, i think most of the job could be done using 3 cfgs, one with a sphere, one with a cylinder and one with a cube(meshes), and then using the scalemesh line and a simple animation that gives the speed(which, as well as the scalemesh, could be made a float, and set tru a slider), and then you just know the distance between camera and car, so a bit of math should just solve the problem with the distance of the animation... well, it is surely not an easy task, but i think it could work this way. 😛

amilmand

skip wrote
too much details

We have a working scx merger that could serve as a workaround for now if 3dsmax is overloaded (LINK)

Bigg Boss93 wrote
simple animation

Those work through setMatrix calls though dont they? and I think that would just put the phys mesh inside the car which I dont think will result in deformation the phys engine will just put them out of eachother I mean the car would probably be pushed but I dont think it would deform (like when you put the car in the ground with half of it sticking out it just sort of snaps on top of it with no damage) but this should be tested I'm just guessing

Bigg_Boss93

That way it wouldnt, yeah. But what if you "install" it on the camera? then it'd be the opposite process than when the car runs against anything solid, just that it's more like you're throwing the object at it?

Like, i'll do a better example, Miran's test track, the weights challenge, but instead of letting them come from the sky, with a pre-set, car-matrix-based and car-speed-based animation, you can do like, uhm, a gun? You'd basically "shot" the car, with objects, kinda like a tennis balls machine. 😃

Is it so ridicolous?

amilmand

Yeah but those are only falling and not get shot that is achieved by the weights being defined as chassis' and calling wakup() on them giving the physref away for gravity I still dont see how we would actually add non downwards velocity to objects. :/
Installing a big rod to the camera may work I saw it (the camera) does have weight you can actually knock over the "advertising columns" in valocity with it, but that would look silly 🙂 bashing the car with your camera to deform it
if there was a way to set the velocity of something that would open up a whole lot of modding opportunities adding guns to cars making booster regions like in cart racing games (from the top of my head)

amilmand

I updated reshade with the fix that is a direct result of the session with RinKK so props to him.
This removes the script hook from reshade (reshade does not monitor the script calls from now on this should result in a slight performance increase the speed of the car that reshade uses for some of the effects is now instead reported with the RawEdit class so the memory scanning is omitted aswell (but this means that the script(java) files are also updated so they should be copied over aswell (I did not modify the track.java so BB's alternative version will still work as intended))).
I also added this to the SlrrExhaustive update but that will be obsolete in a week at most when I will upload the new version (breaking backwards compatibility) to the main download and remove the update file (empty it rather) until further patches are made.
(SlrrExhaustive Bits SlrrExhaustive Patch Link)

Bigg_Boss93

I see, that's annoying, what about;

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