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zakymzf Members Posts: 290 Location: Indonesia Bandung Occupation: zakymzf Age: 31 V$:	#1 2014-08-12 09:15
	so, i watch this video on youtube. and the uploader says it is from SLRR. is it possible to modify the game to be like that? how? is there anyone that have been share the mods. or i have to do it by my self? the hard way! you know, 'try and error' btw, here's the link: CLICK ME
	my name is JACK
Holy Shit Man Moderators Posts: 2554 Location: Poland Occupation: Faking skills like a pro Age: V$: No	#2 2014-08-12 09:41
	I think it's RedlineRacer's W.I.P. Just wait till he'll release it

Initial Beebs Members Posts: 429 http://https://www.facebook.com/W... Location: Ireland Dublin Occupation: Being Picasso Age: 27 V$:	#3 2014-08-12 09:41
	Lol that's one of my friends. Firstly those are custom physics meaning he made them himself. There aren't any top notch physics out there, so yes you have to do it yourself.
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Jesus Christ The Godfathers Posts: 2977 Location: United Kingdom Occupation: Turning water into protein Age: 33 V$: LOAD£D	#4 2014-08-12 09:43
	I'm a bit annoyed with people who are all oh look I figured out how to do something.. ahhaa.. look at my youtube videos dadadada.... share? haah no.. mine lol, do it yourself you wouldn't fucking be here chatting on this site, with that computer, connected to that network if people didn't share shit so let's share and let the community/world progress.
	Why be a KING when you can be a GOD?!
mindeliszz Members Posts: 547 Location: Lithuania Occupation: Occupied Age: 29 V$: One Million Kebabs	#5 2014-08-12 10:05
	There are no good physics out because no one made them good enough for release. I've tried to do something myself, but i could only get good physics for racing or drifting, but not both.
	yes
zakymzf Members Posts: 290 Location: Indonesia Bandung Occupation: zakymzf Age: 31 V$:	#6 2014-08-12 10:51
	# Jesus Christ : I'm a bit annoyed with people who are all oh look I figured out how to do something.. ahhaa.. look at my youtube videos dadadada.... share? haah no.. mine lol, do it yourself you wouldn't fucking be here chatting on this site, with that computer, connected to that network if people didn't share shit so let's share and let the community/world progress. hahaha, good point lol
	my name is JACK
mindeliszz Members Posts: 547 Location: Lithuania Occupation: Occupied Age: 29 V$: One Million Kebabs	#7 2014-08-12 10:55
	I would share mine, but i don't think it's good enough.
	yes
LoneWanderer Members Posts: 218 Location: Indonesia Jakarta Occupation: Student Age: 23 V$:	#8 2014-08-12 11:30
	JC's post may indicate he's against VIP system ( No offense JC ._. ) This post was edited by LoneWanderer (2014-08-12 11:36, ago)

Jesus Christ The Godfathers Posts: 2977 Location: United Kingdom Occupation: Turning water into protein Age: 33 V$: LOAD£D	#9 2014-08-12 11:39
	I am? why would you get the impression that I'm up for VIP system? darkside is not a VIP system lol.
	Why be a KING when you can be a GOD?!
LoneWanderer Members Posts: 218 Location: Indonesia Jakarta Occupation: Student Age: 23 V$:	#10 2014-08-12 12:19
	I'm not talking about darkside lol xD

David_2709 Members Posts: 1987 Location: Germany Occupation: Age: V$: 2750	#11 2014-08-12 14:39
	# mindeliszz : I would share mine, but i don't think it's good enough. Everything is better than the stock physics. When you share both you can have 2 SLRRs, one for drifting and one for racing.

BLiTZ Members Posts: 606 Location: Romania Occupation: disregarding females acquiring currency Age: 10 V$:	#12 2014-08-12 14:59
	JC is right,whats the meaning of creating mods if you only keep them for yourself....
	2K00L4SK00L
Bigg Boss93 The Godfathers Posts: 4024 http://rdbl.co/1Hmg5XL Location: Italy - Sardegna Occupation: Swimming out of the shit pool Age: 30 V$: More than you can afford, pal.	#13 2014-08-12 15:05
	I loled at that video the first time i seen it, especially at some comment like "yeah no one noticed my custom phys"... the only little problem is that those are MY custom physics, not his, i would really like to see him doing the same precise thing with a stock slrr car or a mod that uses stock slrr physics meshes to see if it'd be identical. Dont get fooled people.. lol
	With so much drama in the V-S-T, it's kinda hard being Bigg B-O-double-S-ninetythree Boss'Crew
David_2709 Members Posts: 1987 Location: Germany Occupation: Age: V$: 2750	#14 2014-08-12 15:52
	cough Siim Treiman vor 3 Monaten these physics are amazing!!! Antworten · 1 RedlineRacer96 vor 3 Monaten thank you! didnt think anyone else noticed

mindeliszz Members Posts: 547 Location: Lithuania Occupation: Occupied Age: 29 V$: One Million Kebabs	#15 2014-08-12 15:54
	Agree with BiggBoss. Every "good" physics you see on youtube at some point sucks. That's why no one release them. But i think it's possible to get better handling by completely rewriting Tyre.java.
	yes
Holy Shit Man Moderators Posts: 2554 Location: Poland Occupation: Faking skills like a pro Age: V$: No	#16 2014-08-12 18:04
	If you only know how, nothing stops you Added 1 minute later: BTW: Ain't it is in wrong section of forum?

xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#17 2014-08-12 18:40
	Jesus Christ can you leave a link to your youtube channel? Sorry for the offtopic!

Jesus Christ The Godfathers Posts: 2977 Location: United Kingdom Occupation: Turning water into protein Age: 33 V$: LOAD£D	#18 2014-08-12 20:18
	# xSkyline : Jesus Christ can you leave a link to your youtube channel? Sorry for the offtopic! *LINK* lol?
	Why be a KING when you can be a GOD?!
xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#19 2014-08-12 20:49
	Holy moly you answered my question about who is this guy, thank you! b.t.w Awesome videos.

Initial Beebs Members Posts: 429 http://https://www.facebook.com/W... Location: Ireland Dublin Occupation: Being Picasso Age: 27 V$:	#20 2014-08-12 21:03
	# Jesus Christ : I'm a bit annoyed with people who are all oh look I figured out how to do something.. ahhaa.. look at my youtube videos dadadada.... share? haah no.. mine lol, do it yourself you wouldn't fucking be here chatting on this site, with that computer, connected to that network if people didn't share shit so let's share and let the community/world progress. I'm confused, are you talking to me?
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Jesus Christ The Godfathers Posts: 2977 Location: United Kingdom Occupation: Turning water into protein Age: 33 V$: LOAD£D	#21 2014-08-12 21:14
	# Initial Beebs : I'm confused, are you talking to me? no, I would've quoted you
	Why be a KING when you can be a GOD?!
Initial Beebs Members Posts: 429 http://https://www.facebook.com/W... Location: Ireland Dublin Occupation: Being Picasso Age: 27 V$:	#22 2014-08-13 10:17
	# Jesus Christ : no, I would've quoted you Oh, cool cool
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NidzaFG Members Posts: 77 http://https://www.facebook.com/r... Location: Serbia Right in the middle Occupation: **RESIST STANCE CREW* Age: 30 V$:	#23 2014-08-13 11:00
	It would be nice to have someone make a video tutorial on how to modify the physics..Then people could work on physics themselves,and that's it.
	*RESIST STANCE CREW*
hitman3695 Members Posts: 557 Location: Australia Occupation: hitman3695 Age: 109 V$:	#24 2014-08-13 11:34
	Theres also SimCade Mod, but that's only fixing /adjusting part of the game
	Low is the way to go!
Bigg Boss93 The Godfathers Posts: 4024 http://rdbl.co/1Hmg5XL Location: Italy - Sardegna Occupation: Swimming out of the shit pool Age: 30 V$: More than you can afford, pal.	#25 2014-08-13 12:16
	# NidzaFG : It would be nice to have someone make a video tutorial on how to modify the physics..Then people could work on physics themselves,and that's it. If you people pay me a good internet i will start making streamings(either with livestream or youtube) about car mod making, step by step from converting the model from insert a game name here to making custom phys and gauges and whatever else.
	With so much drama in the V-S-T, it's kinda hard being Bigg B-O-double-S-ninetythree Boss'Crew
BenyUK Wise Guys Posts: 64 Location: Christmas Island Occupation: bum Age: V$:	#26 2014-08-13 12:20
	# NidzaFG : It would be nice to have someone make a video tutorial on how to modify the physics..Then people could work on physics themselves,and that's it. what would you want to see in the video? improving physics is just a constant scripting -> starting the game -> testing -> leaving the game -> scripting... and that goes on and on. everyone who improves physics does it different way so there is no tutorial but i will tell you to start off with a config.java in system/Scripts/util/ the lines you are interested in are: static float wheel_gndfeedback_factor static float wheel_brake_factor static float gravity static float ground_friction static float steerSpeed static float steerhelp_turn <- decrease only static float steeringPower <- BE CAREFUL WITH THAT ONE( power steering) * everytime you change something in the Config.java you need to start off fresh with the options file deleted // location: save/game/* if you see some improvement move on to the Tyre.java in parts/scripts/rgearpart/reciprocatingrgearpart/** ...

xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#27 2014-08-13 12:33
	We should open it with notepad ++ and to change some numbers it the lines you count?

BenyUK Wise Guys Posts: 64 Location: Christmas Island Occupation: bum Age: V$:	#28 2014-08-13 12:39
	# xSkyline : We should open it with notepad ++ and to change some numbers it the lines you count? yes just have a play around with the values and see if you get any improvement

xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#29 2014-08-13 13:22
	Thank you! But the numbers appear a bit strange with my notepad ++ ..

BenyUK Wise Guys Posts: 64 Location: Christmas Island Occupation: bum Age: V$:	#30 2014-08-13 13:38
	you need to download those sources for editing -> MWM BETA JAVA PACK then create a folder called src inside system/Scripts/util/ and put your Config.java inside the src folder. do never attempt modifying .class files! .java files are like an open and fully editable .class files that overwrite your existing .class files each time you start the game

mindeliszz Members Posts: 547 Location: Lithuania Occupation: Occupied Age: 29 V$: One Million Kebabs	#31 2014-08-13 13:40
	# BenyUK : what would you want to see in the video? improving physics is just a constant scripting -> starting the game -> testing -> leaving the game -> scripting... and that goes on and on. everyone who improves physics does it different way so there is no tutorial but i will tell you to start off with a config.java in system/Scripts/util/ the lines you are interested in are: static float wheel_gndfeedback_factor static float wheel_brake_factor static float gravity static float ground_friction static float steerSpeed static float steerhelp_turn <- decrease only static float steeringPower <- BE CAREFUL WITH THAT ONE( power steering) * everytime you change something in the Config.java you need to start off fresh with the options file deleted // location: save/game/* if you see some improvement move on to the Tyre.java in parts/scripts/rgearpart/reciprocatingrgearpart/** ... Didn't knew that, thanks!
	yes
xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#32 2014-08-13 13:40
	Thank you very much!

Redline_Racer Members Posts: 56 Location: United Kingdom Occupation: Redline_Racer Age: 27 V$:	#33 2014-08-13 17:04
	Right, heres to clear things up. Marco; i chose your car because of the physics files on it, they're well placed, well balanced, but thats not all there is to my game. My game has edited tyre,springs,shocks and even base values from config.java thanks to a friend. JC; I do plan to release my whole game, sure it has bits and bobs leaked here and there but ill just remove javas and hope for the best. Basically, BenyUK gave me the final parts to my game (config.java), after his input my game felt so much more planted, the aim for me atleast is to make a game that feels a bit closer to SL1 did, youknow not twitchy,not rolling over constantly, and i'm about 55% there and im working on it when i can. The physics alone will be released, i always have been against the VIP movements, which is why i was kinda mad when i got kicked from the darkside. I might be in wolves of valo, but we have nothing vip about us besides sounds, which will again be released by apendix in an all in one standalone game. I hope this clears everything up, I have big things for you guys and sharing of knowledge between the community is exactly what i plan to do.

Bigg Boss93 The Godfathers Posts: 4024 http://rdbl.co/1Hmg5XL Location: Italy - Sardegna Occupation: Swimming out of the shit pool Age: 30 V$: More than you can afford, pal.	#34 2014-08-13 17:29
	As i answered you on skype, without proper car physics there's no way to drive that way, so there wouldnt be a big difference even after changing javas because most of car mods uses stock slrr physic meshes(from baiern or whatever other stock car).
	With so much drama in the V-S-T, it's kinda hard being Bigg B-O-double-S-ninetythree Boss'Crew
NidzaFG Members Posts: 77 http://https://www.facebook.com/r... Location: Serbia Right in the middle Occupation: **RESIST STANCE CREW* Age: 30 V$:	#35 2014-08-13 17:59
	# BenyUK : what would you want to see in the video? improving physics is just a constant scripting -> starting the game -> testing -> leaving the game -> scripting... and that goes on and on. everyone who improves physics does it different way so there is no tutorial but i will tell you to start off with a config.java in system/Scripts/util/ the lines you are interested in are: static float wheel_gndfeedback_factor static float wheel_brake_factor static float gravity static float ground_friction static float steerSpeed static float steerhelp_turn <- decrease only static float steeringPower <- BE CAREFUL WITH THAT ONE( power steering) * everytime you change something in the Config.java you need to start off fresh with the options file deleted // location: save/game/* if you see some improvement move on to the Tyre.java in parts/scripts/rgearpart/reciprocatingrgearpart/** ... Ok,now is no need for video,thanks man...I did not know what values to change,but now i do..
	*RESIST STANCE CREW*
BluExplosions Members Posts: 357 Location: Canada Occupation: Student Age: 22 V$:	#36 2014-08-13 18:40
	Try to mess around with Tyre.java, ShockAbsorber.java, and if you want to Spring.java (Although I don't recommend it because it f*cks everything up.)

xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#37 2014-08-13 23:09
	Which lines do you changed about the tyre.java and ShockAbsorber.java ? And which have to be changed? A bit ambiguous question..

BenyUK Wise Guys Posts: 64 Location: Christmas Island Occupation: bum Age: V$:	#38 2014-08-13 23:24
	# xSkyline : Which lines do you changed about the tyre.java Me personally i have deleted most of the scripts inside it like sliction, stiffness, load mul2 etc if you want to go this way make sure that you delete each one of the lines that says sliction 000867.00 etc. otherwise you will get an instant crash to the desktop when you start your game (wheel.java is connected to the tyre.java so make sure you delete exact lines from both at the same time) i also think that you will get a much better result if you actually tried to play with friction, sliction, rubber_rigidity and such

xSkyline Members Posts: 55 Location: Bulgaria Dobrich Occupation: Student Age: 24 V$:	#39 2014-08-14 00:46
	Again big thanks Beny! I will try them and if I make a good result I'll show it.

BluExplosions Members Posts: 357 Location: Canada Occupation: Student Age: 22 V$:	#40 2014-08-14 02:02
	# BenyUK : Me personally i have deleted most of the scripts inside it like sliction, stiffness, load mul2 etc if you want to go this way make sure that you delete each one of the lines that says sliction 000867.00 etc. otherwise you will get an instant crash to the desktop when you start your game (wheel.java is connected to the tyre.java so make sure you delete exact lines from both at the same time) i also think that you will get a much better result if you actually tried to play with friction, sliction, rubber_rigidity and such Lol I haven't even messed around with wheel.java, but I have modified Tyre.java. Just out of curiosity what happens if you dont?

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